Jason Lemkin

Founder of SaaStr, B2B SaaS investor

Jason Lemkin invests in Monaco, an AI SDR, and SaaStr ran four others before it. On its first day, he says, Monaco booked a meeting for a six-figure SaaStr sponsorship with no human involved. None of SaaStr's other agents could do that. No agent could do it before February, he says, and now he wonders if anything is safe from disruption.

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Key ideas

Sales

When you have to close deals

Churn

When customers keep leaving

Retention

ICP and Churn Diagnosis

Most SaaS churn is not a product problem. It is a customer problem: you sold to the wrong ICP.

I have passed on every single company that had, for their segment, abnormally high churn. I've gone back to so many founders that were at a million with 78% churn, I'm like, you have something, but it ain't SaaS. It's not SaaS.
Lemkin on segment-relative churn Watch at 54:23
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More

  • AI agents are not plug-and-play - they require significant training and ongoing oversight

    A 'Chief AI Officer' or similar role is needed to manage, train, and iterate on AI agents for effectiveness

    We replaced our sales team with 20 AI agents—here's what happened next | Jason Lemkin (SaaStr)

Disagreements

Why do customers actually leave?

Jason Lemkin

says churn that is abnormal for your segment almost always means you sold to the wrong ideal customer profile. The product can be fine and the buyer wrong, so the fix is positioning and go-to-market, not a quarter of engineering.

Bob Moesta

says the customer hired you for a job, then their context changed and the job moved on, so the switch that brought them in reversed. The fix is to interview the churned and find the struggling moment, not to re-segment.

From ICP and Churn Diagnosis

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