Sales advice for founders: what has held and what changed

By Arun Agrahri · Published

As of Q3 2026 Next refresh January 2027

The sales advice the most experts agree on: qualify hard and walk away from buyers who are not a fit. 9 experts say it, from Jen Abel in 2021 to Seth Godin in 2026. We read 265 sales quotes from 34 experts, each from a dated recording, and sorted them into 24 pieces of advice. 20 were said before 2024 and again in 2025 or later, by at least two people. 1 shows up only from 2025 on.

Questions
236
Quotes
265
Experts
34
Recorded
2010–2026

What founders ask

We sorted 52,235 comments from three founder YouTube channels into the 22 founder problems. 236 of the 3,016 founder questions were about sales (7.8%), rank 4 of 22. 226 came from Alex Hormozi's audience.

“I'm a Sales Director in a huge IT company. Emails and LinkedIn failing flat. Back to cold calls. Would be helpful to know you thoughts about video”
Comment on "81 Minutes of Money Making Advice" · Alex Hormozi · Nov 2023
“How would you decipher whether the bottle neck of your business is the quality of the leads the sales team uses, or the quality of the sales team itself?”
Comment on "This Idea Will Make Your Business Unstoppable" · Alex Hormozi · May 2024
“So if I send cold emails, should I switch towards cold calling? What do you think Alex is implying.”
Comment on "Stop Being Broke. Get Busy." · Alex Hormozi · Jun 2024
“This is best one yet (personally). The skill I need to master is managing a sales team”
Comment on "How to Get Rich for Service-Based Businesses (Thank Me Later)" · Alex Hormozi · Aug 2026

Time-tested

Said by at least two experts, at least once before 2024 and again in 2025 or later. The first one has the most experts behind it. The others follow in the same order. Each shows an early and a recent quote, from two different people where the data allows.

  1. Qualify hard and walk away from buyers who are not a fit.

    9 experts · 18 quotes · 2021 to 2026

    2010: 0 quotes 2011: 0 quotes 2012: 0 quotes 2013: 0 quotes 2014: 0 quotes 2015: 0 quotes 2016: 0 quotes 2017: 0 quotes 2018: 0 quotes 2019: 0 quotes 2020: 0 quotes 2021: 1 quote 2022: 2 quotes 2023: 3 quotes 2024: 4 quotes 2025: 4 quotes 2026: 4 quotes

    20102026

    “and can articulate the implications for not solving for it then and only then does it make sense for you to schedule a second call”
    Jen Abel · 2021 · B2B Sales Masterclass - Jen Abel ( Co-founder, JJELLYFISH) | Zero...
    “is eagerly send prospects to our competition to be able to say, you walk into a Ferrari dealership”
    Seth Godin · 2026 · Seth Godin: How to Build a Brand AI Can’t Replace

    Quoted: April Dunford, Chris Voss, Elena Verna, Jason Lemkin, Jen Abel, Josh Braun, Mark Roberge, Pete Kazanjy, and Seth Godin.

  2. Make the decision feel safe; buyer fear and indecision lose more deals than rivals.

    8 experts · 17 quotes · 2017 to 2026

    2010: 0 quotes 2011: 0 quotes 2012: 0 quotes 2013: 0 quotes 2014: 0 quotes 2015: 0 quotes 2016: 0 quotes 2017: 1 quote 2018: 0 quotes 2019: 0 quotes 2020: 0 quotes 2021: 1 quote 2022: 1 quote 2023: 6 quotes 2024: 6 quotes 2025: 1 quote 2026: 1 quote

    20102026

    “it's not the features and benefits that get people to go it's the reduction of anxieties”
    Bob Moesta · 2023 · Bob Moesta on the book Demand Side Sales 101
    “All the people you're you're selling to in a in a corporate America environment are asking themselves one question. What will I tell my boss?”
    Seth Godin · 2026 · Seth Godin: How to Build a Brand AI Can’t Replace

    Quoted: Aaron Levie, Alex Hormozi, April Dunford, Bob Moesta, Geoffrey Moore, Jen Abel, Kyle Poyar, and Seth Godin.

  3. Name the other person's feelings and listen before you try to persuade.

    6 experts · 14 quotes · 2019 to 2026

    2010: 0 quotes 2011: 0 quotes 2012: 0 quotes 2013: 0 quotes 2014: 0 quotes 2015: 0 quotes 2016: 0 quotes 2017: 0 quotes 2018: 0 quotes 2019: 1 quote 2020: 0 quotes 2021: 0 quotes 2022: 1 quote 2023: 5 quotes 2024: 1 quote 2025: 5 quotes 2026: 1 quote

    20102026

    “people do not operate first and foremost at the level of Fox they operate at the level of feelings”
    Jim Collins · 2019 · Jim Collins — Good to Great — The Knowledge Project #67
    “you're describing the underlying emotion that the other person's feeling.”
    Josh Braun · 2025 · Josh Braun Shares Sales Techniques That Work

    Quoted: Brad Jacobs, Chris Voss, Jim Collins, Josh Braun, Madhavan Ramanujam, and Robert Cialdini.

  4. Show the buyer what staying put is costing them.

    6 experts · 11 quotes · 2021 to 2026

    2010: 0 quotes 2011: 0 quotes 2012: 0 quotes 2013: 0 quotes 2014: 0 quotes 2015: 0 quotes 2016: 0 quotes 2017: 0 quotes 2018: 0 quotes 2019: 0 quotes 2020: 0 quotes 2021: 1 quote 2022: 0 quotes 2023: 3 quotes 2024: 1 quote 2025: 4 quotes 2026: 2 quotes

    20102026

    “we know from prospect theory that the fear of loss is almost I think twice or three times as big as the game”
    Josh Braun · 2023 · Cold Emailing 101 with Josh Braun - Book Meetings With Emails
    “You are a liability not closing this gap.”
    Jen Abel · 2026 · 84 minutes of enterprise sales alpha | Jen Abel

    Quoted: Alex Hormozi, Chris Voss, Jen Abel, Josh Braun, Lulu Cheng Meservey, and Robert Cialdini.

  5. Sales is a learnable skill: practice it and learn from the best sellers.

    6 experts · 9 quotes · 2022 to 2026

    2010: 0 quotes 2011: 0 quotes 2012: 0 quotes 2013: 0 quotes 2014: 0 quotes 2015: 0 quotes 2016: 0 quotes 2017: 0 quotes 2018: 0 quotes 2019: 0 quotes 2020: 0 quotes 2021: 0 quotes 2022: 2 quotes 2023: 3 quotes 2024: 0 quotes 2025: 3 quotes 2026: 1 quote

    20102026

    “the thing that I just like to encourage Founders and and product managers what have you is just don't be afraid of sales”
    Pete Kazanjy · 2022 · Founder-led sales | Pete Kazanjy (Founding Sales, Atrium)
    “find someone in your organization that has been having success month after month and just sit next to them.”
    Josh Braun · 2025 · Josh Braun Shares Sales Techniques That Work

    Quoted: April Dunford, Bob Baxley, Chris Voss, Jen Abel, Josh Braun, and Pete Kazanjy.

  6. Pitch the outcome and business case, not the features.

    6 experts · 8 quotes · 2015 to 2026

    2010: 0 quotes 2011: 0 quotes 2012: 0 quotes 2013: 0 quotes 2014: 0 quotes 2015: 1 quote 2016: 0 quotes 2017: 0 quotes 2018: 0 quotes 2019: 0 quotes 2020: 0 quotes 2021: 0 quotes 2022: 0 quotes 2023: 1 quote 2024: 1 quote 2025: 4 quotes 2026: 1 quote

    20102026

    “we shouldn't be talking about features. We should be talking about the value that the features deliver.”
    April Dunford · 2023 · A step-by-step guide to crafting a sales pitch that wins | April...
    “When you're selling to a leader, you need to be selling an opportunity.”
    Jen Abel · 2025 · $1M to $10M: The enterprise sales playbook with Jen Abel

    Quoted: Aaron Levie, Alex Hormozi, April Dunford, Jen Abel, Kyle Poyar, and Madhavan Ramanujam.

  7. Hire a couple of proven reps before a sales leader, and test them hard.

    5 experts · 18 quotes · 2021 to 2026

    2010: 0 quotes 2011: 0 quotes 2012: 0 quotes 2013: 0 quotes 2014: 0 quotes 2015: 0 quotes 2016: 0 quotes 2017: 0 quotes 2018: 0 quotes 2019: 0 quotes 2020: 0 quotes 2021: 1 quote 2022: 3 quotes 2023: 0 quotes 2024: 9 quotes 2025: 3 quotes 2026: 2 quotes

    20102026

    “you probably don't want to start with like a VP of sales to start like a sales leader”
    Pete Kazanjy · 2022 · Founder-led sales | Pete Kazanjy (Founding Sales, Atrium)
    “just go find an adviser who's hired sales people before. Give them 01% a month. Have them run through the trenches with you”
    Mark Roberge · 2026 · The Science of Sales + Why Founders Hire Sales Too Early w/ Mark...

    Quoted: Geoffrey Moore, Jason Lemkin, Jen Abel, Mark Roberge, and Pete Kazanjy.

  8. Sell to the senior person who signs, and arm your champion for the rest.

    5 experts · 11 quotes · 2023 to 2026

    2010: 0 quotes 2011: 0 quotes 2012: 0 quotes 2013: 0 quotes 2014: 0 quotes 2015: 0 quotes 2016: 0 quotes 2017: 0 quotes 2018: 0 quotes 2019: 0 quotes 2020: 0 quotes 2021: 0 quotes 2022: 0 quotes 2023: 3 quotes 2024: 2 quotes 2025: 1 quote 2026: 5 quotes

    20102026

    “ninety percent of product LED sales is converting the usage into an opportunity by finding a buyer outside by finding the decision maker outside”
    Elena Verna · 2023 · The ultimate guide to product-led sales | Elena Verna
    “I call it the the pincher model because you're going after two different people and trying to get them together.”
    Jen Abel · 2026 · 84 minutes of enterprise sales alpha | Jen Abel

    Quoted: April Dunford, Elena Verna, Geoffrey Moore, Jen Abel, and Pete Kazanjy.

  9. In price talks, hold your number and make each concession smaller.

    5 experts · 10 quotes · 2020 to 2026

    2010: 0 quotes 2011: 0 quotes 2012: 0 quotes 2013: 0 quotes 2014: 0 quotes 2015: 0 quotes 2016: 0 quotes 2017: 0 quotes 2018: 0 quotes 2019: 0 quotes 2020: 1 quote 2021: 0 quotes 2022: 2 quotes 2023: 1 quote 2024: 0 quotes 2025: 5 quotes 2026: 1 quote

    20102026

    “so rather than rather than be like well let me talk to my manager and get you 10 off”
    Alex Hormozi · 2022 · KEYNOTE: Small To BIG. The Big 4 Customer Acquisition Models.
    “The best negotiators who taper the concessions so they would say I can give you 15%.”
    Madhavan Ramanujam · 2025 · Pricing your AI product: Lessons from 400+ companies and 50...

    Quoted: Alex Hormozi, Chris Voss, Jen Abel, Madhavan Ramanujam, and Robert Cialdini.

  10. Small framing choices, set up before you ask, change the answer.

    5 experts · 8 quotes · 2020 to 2026

    2010: 0 quotes 2011: 0 quotes 2012: 0 quotes 2013: 0 quotes 2014: 0 quotes 2015: 0 quotes 2016: 0 quotes 2017: 0 quotes 2018: 0 quotes 2019: 0 quotes 2020: 2 quotes 2021: 0 quotes 2022: 1 quote 2023: 1 quote 2024: 1 quote 2025: 1 quote 2026: 2 quotes

    20102026

    “The call to action when you're downselling, I mean, I really like this in general when I'm selling is fair enough, sound fair.”
    Alex Hormozi · 2020 · How To Close Everyone Downselling Like A Pro (ALEX HORMOZI)
    “find what you think is your strongest element in your case.”
    Robert Cialdini · 2025 · Robert Cialdini: The godfather of influence tackles negotiation

    Quoted: Alex Hormozi, Chris Voss, Madhavan Ramanujam, Robert Cialdini, and Rory Sutherland.

  11. Build the deal around what the other side wants, so both come out ahead.

    5 experts · 6 quotes · 2013 to 2026

    2010: 0 quotes 2011: 0 quotes 2012: 0 quotes 2013: 1 quote 2014: 0 quotes 2015: 0 quotes 2016: 0 quotes 2017: 0 quotes 2018: 0 quotes 2019: 1 quote 2020: 0 quotes 2021: 0 quotes 2022: 0 quotes 2023: 1 quote 2024: 0 quotes 2025: 2 quotes 2026: 1 quote

    20102026

    “your best way to deal with that is to turn it from a short-term game into a long-term game”
    Naval Ravikant · 2019 · How to Get Rich
    “the very underpinning of business trade is both sides have to end up better at the end of a deal.”
    Michael Seibel · 2026 · How Great Founders Approach Sales

    Quoted: Brad Jacobs, Charlie Munger, Chris Voss, Michael Seibel, and Naval Ravikant.

  12. Find the buyer's problem before you pitch anything.

    4 experts · 17 quotes · 2021 to 2026

    2010: 0 quotes 2011: 0 quotes 2012: 0 quotes 2013: 0 quotes 2014: 0 quotes 2015: 0 quotes 2016: 0 quotes 2017: 0 quotes 2018: 0 quotes 2019: 0 quotes 2020: 0 quotes 2021: 1 quote 2022: 2 quotes 2023: 1 quote 2024: 2 quotes 2025: 4 quotes 2026: 7 quotes

    20102026

    “Earn the right to sell do not sell on that first call because you're setting yourself up to fail”
    Jen Abel · 2021 · B2B Sales Masterclass - Jen Abel ( Co-founder, JJELLYFISH) | Zero...
    “the after the solution doesn't matter unless you understand the problem.”
    Josh Braun · 2026 · Josh Braun - How To Detach From The Outcome in Sales

    Quoted: Geoffrey Moore, Jen Abel, Josh Braun, and Michael Seibel.

More time-tested advice

The rest of the time-tested advice, with its early and its recent expert. Each name links to the quote.

What changed

New advice is said by at least two experts, every time in 2025 or later.

  1. Create urgency with real scarcity or a visible deadline.

    2 experts · 2 quotes · 2026

    2010: 0 quotes 2011: 0 quotes 2012: 0 quotes 2013: 0 quotes 2014: 0 quotes 2015: 0 quotes 2016: 0 quotes 2017: 0 quotes 2018: 0 quotes 2019: 0 quotes 2020: 0 quotes 2021: 0 quotes 2022: 0 quotes 2023: 0 quotes 2024: 0 quotes 2025: 0 quotes 2026: 2 quotes

    20102026

    “Scarcity of commodities of items works better because if you because if other people go first and get them, you're out.”
    Robert Cialdini · 2026 · The Psychology Behind Every Yes: Dr. Robert Cialdini on Influence...
    “you just want to have a countdown timer at the top because that's what creates the urgency around it.”
    Alex Hormozi · 2026 · Can I Save This Failing Theme Park in 90 Days?

    Quoted: Alex Hormozi and Robert Cialdini.

How the questions moved

Sales's share of all founder questions in each half-year, with a 95% range.

  • H2 2023 8.4%
  • H1 2024 9.3%
  • H2 2024 7.4%
  • H1 2025 6.6%
  • H2 2025 11.6%
  • H1 2026 4.9%
  • H2 2026 (to Sep) 6.0%

Dark bar: share of founder questions. Light band: 95% range.

The share was highest in H2 2025 (11.6%, 13 questions) and lowest in H1 2026 (4.9%, 17 of 347). The ranges overlap, so the change may be chance.

Where experts disagree

Two named experts give opposite sales advice in 7 places. Each split comes from a Gavel framework page. All splits

  1. Is the pitch a narrative you deliver, or a conversation you steer?

    April Dunford

    treats the pitch as a designed sequence: a short setup on the market and your point of view, then most of the call on differentiated value against the alternatives the buyer is actually weighing. Structure is what stops a sound positioning doc from producing a flat call.

    Chris Voss

    would say the twelve minutes you spend talking are twelve minutes you are not learning. His opener is a label or a mirror that gets the other side explaining their own position, on the view that the person doing the talking is the person giving away information.

    From Sales Pitch Framework

  2. Fill the pipeline, or sell to the phase?

    Bob Moesta

    says most teams build the sales process on probability, so many leads in and so many converted, when the question that matters is how many people are ready to buy. He finds where each buyer is on the six-phase timeline and helps them take the next step.

    Jeb Blount

    treats volume as the job. Prospect every single day, keep 30 times your quota in pipeline opportunities, and read an empty pipeline as a failure to prospect consistently (Fanatical Prospecting).

    From The Buying Timeline

  3. Lead with the answer or build tension?

    Nancy Duarte

    deliberately withholds resolution, alternating what is with what could be so the audience feels the gap before it gets an answer.

    Barbara Minto

    says lead with the answer, then support it, which is the house style at most consulting firms and in most executive readouts.

    From What Is, What Could Be

  4. Is sales a formula you can run, or a craft that dies when systematised?

    Mark Roberge

    built sales at HubSpot as a measurable system: hire against traits the data actually predicts, coachability over aggression, train one repeatable process, and manage the funnel by numbers instead of instinct.

    Carles Reina

    scaled ElevenLabs past 350 million in ARR and argues the systematised version is exactly what broke outbound. The tools treat every prospect as a transaction and buyers can smell it, which is why reply rates cratered. Personal beats scalable.

    From The Sales Acceleration Formula

  5. Hunt the hidden information, or assume there is none left?

    Chris Voss

    treats every negotiation as holding at least three Black Swans, unknown unknowns that would change the deal if surfaced. The party with the most information usually wins, so calibrated questions and labels exist to extract what the other side does not realise they are giving away.

    Daniel Pink

    argues information parity has already transformed selling. Once a buyer can look up everything a seller knows, hoarding and extraction stop paying, and honest servant-selling plus problem-finding replace them.

    From Calibrated Questions

  6. Does empathy close the deal, or does challenge?

    Chris Voss

    opens by labelling the other side's position and letting them talk, on the view that the person doing the talking is giving away information. Tactical empathy is not warmth, it is a way of getting the real objection said out loud.

    Matt Dixon

    analysed 2.5 million sales calls and found most deals are not lost to a competitor at all: 40 to 60 percent of qualified pipeline is lost to no decision. His answer is to teach the buyer something they did not know, name the risk they cannot see, and take it off the table.

    From Tactical Empathy

  7. Trigger the rule, or read the person?

    Robert Cialdini

    treats influence as rules people already carry. Give first and the other side feels they owe you, at a negotiating table as much as in a restaurant. The work is picking the first move.

    Chris Voss

    argues that negotiation runs on emotion. Show you understand the other side's feelings and name them out loud. He calls this tactical empathy, and says it beats any logical argument or compliance trigger.

    From Reciprocity Principle

Frameworks

Gavel pages that apply one expert's sales framework, with their own quotes and sources.

Other advice

Advice that one expert gives, or that has no quote from before 2024 yet. Not counted above.

  • Use AI to give reps more selling time, not to rush buyers.

    One expert · Mark Roberge · 3 quotes, 2026

  • Upsell right after the first yes, when the need is sharpest.

    One expert · Alex Hormozi · 3 quotes, 2025

Method

  1. Quotes: 265 verified quotes from Gavel's expert cards tagged with sales. Each quote was checked word for word against the recording, and each card links to the moment it was said. 34 people are quoted.
  2. Dates: a quote is dated by its recording's upload date on YouTube. An old talk uploaded late counts from the upload. 96 quotes are from before 2024 and 123 from 2025 or later.
  3. Advice: we read every quote and wrote 24 short statements of advice. A classifier (Jev) then placed each quote under one statement, or under none. It agreed with our own reading on 232 of 265 quotes. 232 quotes landed under a statement.
  4. Quotes shown: for each piece of advice we show quotes where the classifier and our own reading agree. We skip a quote that is too short to state the advice on its own. It still counts.
  5. Time-tested: at least two experts, with one quote from before 2024 and one from 2025 or later. New: at least two experts, with every quote from 2025 or later. Both cut-off years move forward when a new year starts.
  6. Questions: 52,235 comments from a16z, Alex Hormozi and Lenny's Podcast, from the second half of 2023 to September 2026. A classifier (Jev) marked which ones ask for help and sorted those into the 22 founder problems. The ranges are 95% Wilson intervals.
  7. Limits: the quote mix follows which recordings Gavel holds, and 123 of 265 quotes are from 2025 or later. Advice can look new only because older recordings of it are missing. Most questions come from one channel's audience.
  8. Refresh: every quarter we add new quotes and questions and rerun the counts. This page is as of Q3 2026. Next refresh: January 2027.

Cite

Cite as: Arun Agrahri, “Sales advice for founders: what has held and what changed,” Gavel, as of Q3 2026, https://usegavel.com/research/what-founders-ask/sales

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